Topic: ***SPOILER*** Can that kid finish a race without...

[coloradojrfan]

To me, the basic problem is not Brad, Smoke, Kurt or anyone else...  It is the COT and the Restrictor plate...  You put a wing on the back of the car and guess what, it acts just like, you guessed it, A WING!!  The roof flaps deployed on Ryan's car, but the damn wing just had too much lift. 

Like Ryan said in the post-wreck inteview, NASCAR needs to do away with the COT and the Restrictor plate. 

Today's event (cannot really be called a race) was about as exciting to watch as traffic from a highway overpass.  Until the last 20 laps...  Then a demolition derby broke out...  Go figure....

[ShiftNOS18]

I'll agree with you on the fact about the COT, but no matter what they do at Tally, its going to happen. Especially with overaggressive drivers out on the track...

[bamanut28]

 Nascar cant paint this box and then tell the driver how to drive in it, I cant stand or believe that they told the drivers how to race because some figured out how to pull away from the pack, thats as close to trying to fix a race as you can get..
Brad being still a rookie needs to chill out or he will receive alot more than he gives there are still a few guys that have balls and will put his arse in the wall and then I don't want to here any whining out of his arse.. What goes around comes around and you damn well better be able to take what you give.. The kid so far has acted like who cares the redneck fans that want to see crashes and not real racing fans like it so its all good, but when his scrawny ass gets put head on into the inside wall we will see how much he cares what those redneck fans think.. With his butt hair chin and giraffe neck and all 110lbs soaking wet we will see how cool he thinks he is when he is on a stretcher going to the hospital.. I use to cheer for the kid but this year and the success has already changed him and not for the good.. I think everyone should start calling him Kyle JR and he wouldnt have any fans if he didnt drive that 88 car in the NNWS, we will see how many still follow him when or care when he is running mid pack racing and probably wrecking Dale JR..

[jopajoe]

The only thing that would have made this better is if Johnson would have been caught up in this wreck.It's racing it happens just never seems to be to the right persons.An if nascar died when Earnhardt (was not god)did then why are we all still here and not supporting eithe Local racing or maybre Indy or F1?

[Don Colbath III]

Nascar isn't racing. It's a 5 hour infomercial.

[Rick Eve]

Nascar isn't racing. It's a 5 hour infomercial.

AMEN!

[jopajoe]

Nascar isn't racing. It's a 5 hour infomercial.

It' like that in every sport did you watch any football today?
Steelers wheren't even playing but i seen Troy's Head and Shoulders commercial like 5 times today.

[DawsonvilleBill9]

Could you even imagine how it'd be without restrictor plates and the CoT's? They'd be qualifying at 220 MPH and they would actually lap other cars running on the track! Imagine that...shades of the '80's! Damn I loved the old days in NASCAR! And Talladega and Daytona would be superspeedways again!

[Robert Vining]

Look, I don't care for Kesalowski's style either, but when he was right in front of Mark with 30 to go running 2nd and 3rd I was sure as hell rooting for him.

From what I saw of the incident, Brad was bump drafting Kurt down the backstretch when Kurt's car got loose and headed toward the wall.

Now, if I remember correctly, Kurt's rear bumper and right rear quarter panel were all folded under a bit due to an early incident. So I would bet a dollar that played a huge part in the wreck that happened.

As for the name calling... let's leave it off the board please. We can all make our points without calling people prick's and assholes. Ok?

As for all of you bitching about how Nascar used to be... you might want to look outside the half a dozen 'yesteryear' replays they show week in and week out and watch a race from the 80's or even the 90's on ESPN Classic and most of the time there were less than 10 cars on the lead lap at the finish of any given race.

Here's the 82 Talladega 500 where 10 cars finished on the lead lap, 11th & 12th were 1 lap down, 13th & 14th were 2 laps down, 15th 3 laps down and 16th on back was even worse off.
Margin of Victory: 1 car length

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1982-19&series=W

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The next week at Michigan, only 5 were on the lead lap... 6th was a lap down, 7th 2 down, 8th through 12th were 3 laps down.

Margin of Victory: 2 car lenghts.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1982-20&series=W

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1982 Bristol 500
Only 3 drivers finished on the lead lap, 4th through 6th were 1 lap down, 7th 2 laps down and 8th was 5 laps down.

Margin of Victory: 0.70 seconds

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1982-21&series=W

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Fast forward 10 years...

The 1992 Talladega 500 saw only 3 cars on the lead lap at the finish, with 4th though 16th a lap down.

Margin of Victory: 0.19 seconds.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1992-17&series=W

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Two weeks later at Michigan a whopping 12 cars finished on the lead lap... with 13th through 20th 1 lap down.

Margin of Victory: 4.94 Seconds.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1992-19&series=W

1992 Bristol 'Bud' 500 there were only 4 cars on the lead lap. 5th through 9th were a lap down and 10th was 2 laps down.

Margin of Victory: 9.28 seconds.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=1992-20&series=W

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Fast forward 10 more years

2002 Talladega 500 - 22 cars finished on the lead lap.

Margin of Victory: 0.118

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2002-30&series=W

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2002 Michigan 500 32 cars on the lead lap

Margin of Victory: 2.285 seconds

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2002-23&series=W

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2002 Bristol 500 - 13 cars on the lead lap, 14th through 19th 1 lap down.

Margin of Victory: .502 seconds

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2002-24&series=W

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2009 Talladega 500 - 26 cars on the lead lap.

Margin of Victory: under caution.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2009-33&series=W

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2009 Michigan 500 - 32 cars on the lead lap.

Margin of Victory: 1.409 seconds.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2009-23&series=W

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2009 Bristol 500 22 cars on the lead lap.

Margin of Victory: 0.98 seconds.

http://www.racing-reference.info/race?id=2009-24&series=W

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The numbers above show me there are alot more competitive cars on the track today racing for position than there ever was.

Also, while all of us are bitching about this and that with Nascar week in and week out... chew on this. Over 45% of the adult population watched a nascar race in it's entirety at some point in the past year. Yet no one watches Nascar anymore.

[Tanner2488]

year 2000 NASCAR was the 3rd most world wide watched sport
year 2009 NASCAR was the 5th most world wide watched sport


NASCAR has dropped in viewers. I still love NASCAR and i have been watching it since i was born. Literately. My 10th Birthday Jeff Gordon won at Indy. The first Indy race, and thats when i became a Jeff Gordon fan. Jeff Gordon now has failed at most tracks, because of the new cars. Plus no matter what... the cars will always get air born. They cant stop cars from flipping. Plus it mostly happens 2 times a year (Talladega) or for some other reason a car flips. (Joey Logano Dover)

Case closed :-)